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Post by grizzlyocean on Mar 22, 2011 8:39:12 GMT -8
I bought a female gerbil mid February and was not told that two was better than one. She was normal until i took her home for spring break but now shes less and less active. Shes only active if i feed her sunflower seeds or take her out to run around for a bit. I have another ten gallon tank now and plan on getting a much bigger one before the summer and construct a descent habitat. I'm afraid that she is lonely and i want to introduce a younger female to her. I plan on purchasing the new one at the same local pet store and i will have the other tank all set up her her. Any ideas on how to introduce properly?
Thank You in advance
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Post by brighttreegerbils on Mar 22, 2011 13:51:50 GMT -8
I'd do some extensive research on the split cage method. If you have any questions after reading about it, please feel free to ask us. The key to making this work will be patience. You may have to have the two females in a split cage for weeks or months before they are ready.
-Matt
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Post by SilverGerbil on Mar 22, 2011 14:19:35 GMT -8
Hiya, Youve posted this in the wrong part of the forum! Ill move it for you, hopefully you will get more replies this way! x
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Post by johanne on Mar 22, 2011 16:40:38 GMT -8
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Post by grizzlyocean on Mar 23, 2011 11:59:10 GMT -8
Thanks for moving me, new to this lol. So i did alot of research on the split cage method and i was wonder for the first week if it was a good idea to have the two 10 gallon tanks right next to each other for the first week. While they chill in their own tanks ill construct a mesh divider to put in one cage and split them. Hopefully all goes well. The shop keeper said it may be a bad idea to introduce since Suzie Q has already been on her own for over a month now. What do you guys think? Shes normal and digs and runs on her wheel a lot, i just really want to give her a friend.
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Post by brighttreegerbils on Mar 23, 2011 18:38:23 GMT -8
There is no harm in letting two gerbils see each other in seperate cages for a week or so before beginning the split cage process.
I've also found that gerbils that have been on their own for a period of time are often more friendly to the idea of a new gerbil. Being on their own makes them a bit lonely, I imagine and so they might be more open to the idea of accepting another gerbil.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
-Matt
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Post by johanne on Mar 24, 2011 0:28:50 GMT -8
It is nice of you to get a friend for Suzie Q.
It won't make a lot of difference whether their tanks are side by side or in different rooms. When you bring home a new gerbil, it can be a good idea to keep them completely separate at first just in case the stress of moving to a new home brings out illness in the new one. It's a good safety measure.
Otherwise, if you want to get the introduction process started, put them side by side and switch them between the tanks. You'll still need to do the split tank, but they'll have a chance to start getting familiar with each others' scents while you're still working on the divider.
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Post by grizzlyocean on Mar 27, 2011 14:49:47 GMT -8
So it will be okay if I switch them back and forth from each others tank? I picked up a new female two days ago, her name is Sandy. I made a make shift barrier today with two things of wire mesh a couple centimeters apart. I made it so i can take it in and out so sandy can have her full tank at all times. I moved suzie over to sandys tank and two things happened, Sandy started to gnaw on the metal mesh and suzie climbed the barrier in a flash and i grabbed her and put her back in her own tank. I think its going to be a long slow process. How often should I put them together and for how long? Is it okay to put them together in an open area to observe and remove at first danger or will they attack?
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Post by brighttreegerbils on Mar 27, 2011 16:37:16 GMT -8
You need to keep them in the split tank for at least a week, maybe a month, maybe more. Each side should have food and water and everything else they need. Switch them at least once a day and move toys, water bottles, bedding, etc. around randomly. You want them to have constant contact and for their smells to become totally integrated. It is also important that they can't get under, around, over or through the divider. Do not try to introdue them directly with no divider until a week or two at least. The key to making an introduction work is patience.
-Matt
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Post by grizzlyocean on Mar 31, 2011 18:19:51 GMT -8
alright, so i have them in different tanks until i can get a bigger tank to split and they can have other things to do because a small tank split will freak them out. Is it a good idea to pass they're dust bath bowl back and forth?
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Post by johanne on Mar 31, 2011 20:12:25 GMT -8
It won't hurt, and they'll both enjoy the dust bath.
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Post by woolymammoth on Apr 1, 2011 13:56:56 GMT -8
I don't see the need to split them between tanks before the split is in place? Splits already cause a certain amount of stress and the constant moving back and forth will only upset them further. It wont benefit them in any way as when you start the split they will be in a totally new environment anyway. Can i also add that you are best to remove any toys, food bowls etc. These can be easily scent marked and "claimed" by either gerbil and can make the introduction more troublesome. Just put in a water bottle for each, sprinkle their food in the substrate and only give them easily destroyed materials like toilet paper, toilet roll tubes, hay, paper bedding etc. I have done so many gerbil introductions now, and practically have one on the go all the time! Also i have found that you need to be swapping sides at least 3 times a day for further success. I have only ever failed at an intro once and it was due to an overly aggressive male gerbil that just refused to accept his potential friend
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Post by grizzlyocean on Apr 4, 2011 5:04:35 GMT -8
well i only have two 10 gallon tanks right now, is that too small for an intro? How do you do your intros exactly? and have you had success with a female to female introduction? and do I leave them in the split tank till it works or should i remove them once and a while? Im just afraid that a 10 gallon is not big enough and i dont want to leave them alone like that all day.
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Post by woolymammoth on Apr 4, 2011 6:16:05 GMT -8
Yes 10 gallons is too small for an intro. Its pretty small for one gerbil, let alone two. I've had success at least 25 plus times with female to female introductions. This ranges in ages from weeks old, to 3 years old, but i am really experienced in doing these so find them more straighforward than most. Once they are in the split, do not remove them and do not clean them out. If they are in it for longer than suspected you can add some substrate to what you have to freshen it a little but thats it. Johanne has linked to two different sources of how to do split tanks in her post and there is another one here gerbilsociety.com/indysrascals/gerbil-bonding/ which is a step by step guide.
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Post by grizzlyocean on Apr 4, 2011 11:15:34 GMT -8
Thanks for the link, it had a lot of new stuff for me. Money is an issue right now in purchasing a new tank. Im looking online to purchase a used tank off of craigslist but no luck yet. Can i use a clear plastic container? They are much cheaper and i saw one being used on that link for an introduction. If thats okay, i want to get started on a split asap. Thank you
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