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Post by thegerbilfamily on Jul 30, 2015 2:01:46 GMT -8
All the pups look like they have nipples does this mean they are female? Also what colour do you think they be? The one nearest on the right, the pink one has no dark patches anywhere. They are 10 days old btw. This is the best pic i could get of all of them cause they kept moving lol.  Oh and the dad is golden agouti and the mum is yellow fox  |
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Post by betty on Aug 1, 2015 2:20:57 GMT -8
It's a great picture for identifying colours - however, I am not the best without the genetics!
I am sure the top 2 are Agouti. And the bottom one is a late bloomer - most likely red-eyed too is she? Could be PEW if both parents carry cp, or Argente Cream/Fawn.
The other 3 are defo ee pups - but I haven't had any myself for a while. Perhaps the darker one is a Light DEH and the other 2 are Polar Foxes?
Someone else needs to confirm those really - and any changes in the 'pink' one since you took this picture?
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Post by thegerbilfamily on Aug 1, 2015 5:40:00 GMT -8
Thanks ! Also the pink one is growing some white fur. This pup looks to be the only one without nipples so idk if its male or not, is 12 days old to early to tell their gender for certain?  |
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Post by betty on Aug 1, 2015 5:55:53 GMT -8
Yeah, 'he' looks like a PEW to me (without knowing the parents genes). Do you have any more info on the parents - like their parents and siblings? Have they had any previous litters? And some people can sex at any age - I tend to wait until 4 weeks before I sex - well, they aren't going anywhere before then anyway, are they?
If you are interested: so far all you could say genetically was (depending on them being polar foxes and a PEW) and where 'c' = a present but unknown colourpoint gene and 'u' = is the underwhite (dilute) gene;
Dad - A* Cc Ee P* Uu
Mum - A* Cc ee pp Uu
It is possible that the mum or the dad (or both) is an AA - meaning they will never get aa-side pups (blacks, nutmegs etc). You won't know the genes for sure though until someone confirms the ee pups in your top picture and whether the is actually a PEW (not a Himi or REW).
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Post by Shooting Star on Aug 1, 2015 6:37:08 GMT -8
I definitely see two Agouti and a PEW. The others, can we get an updated pic? I would hazard a guess at a Nutmeg and two Light DEH, but they could be Silver Nutmeg or Polar Fox as well.
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Post by thegerbilfamily on Aug 3, 2015 8:05:45 GMT -8
I know that on the mother's side her siblings were lilac,black and orange (not sure what type as I wasn't looking closely). They have not had any previous litters, all the pups look like they have nipples but some less and more faint then others. Here's a pic of them all from today  |
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Post by Shooting Star on Aug 3, 2015 8:15:29 GMT -8
Yep, two Agouti, two LDEH, a Nutmeg and a PEW.
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Post by betty on Aug 3, 2015 10:35:00 GMT -8
Great - that's the colours sorted then - looks like you have got Aa for both parents after all.
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