Crystal
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Post by Crystal on Aug 8, 2014 13:02:31 GMT -8
I'm torn between Light Colorpoint Golden Agouti and Light Colorpoint Nutmeg or..? Her nails are brown, and I have had LCP Agouti but not this creamy looking. i.imgur.com/B0skV3L.png(Image of her tail up close) i.imgur.com/zqETYEs.png(tried to get a photo of her undercoat/roots) She's under quarantine with another young female so her puffy fur is from the shop she came from.
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Post by betty on Aug 10, 2014 23:14:52 GMT -8
She looked more like a CPAg to me at first glance, but when I saw the tail I thought she must be quite old to have lost the cute agouti wedge. Some of my older ones are very creamy (I have 13 CPAgs (some spotted) so I have seen how different they can all look when they age).
Do you know how old she is? Because if she is a youngster, I'm not so sure from those pictures - I've not had any CPNuts. Do you have her in lighter surroundings? And looking at her from lower down so we can see her face and demarcation line.
Any family history too?
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Post by ashtree93 on Aug 11, 2014 13:41:19 GMT -8
It looks more like a CP rather than LCP. My LCP agouti looks almost completely white. I have had a CP agouti before who looked like your gerbil. She has salt and pepper like fur with a browner tail. I think LCP nutmegs are like a BEW as pups and then undergo the ticking as they age. I think it is just black ticking rather than a mixture. Although, I could be wrong as I have never had LCP nutmegs.
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Post by Shooting Star on Aug 11, 2014 15:09:33 GMT -8
Tricky from those photos. She does appear to be fairly young. I'd say LCPA, but LCPN is possible.
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Crystal
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Post by Crystal on Aug 13, 2014 5:49:34 GMT -8
Actually, I have produced LCPA years ago who looked like this: (from '09) He was SO lightly colored, I saw no uhm, "demarcation line" *old timer, not keeping up with new terms* I knew he was for certain a LCPA because he had a spotted LCPA brother and his parents were a Sp G.Agouti who was AA Cch EE etc, and father was aa Ccb Ee. But as for this new girl, I got her from a local shop so I unfortunately do not know her family line. She had just been placed in the store with same girls where ever they came from, they came together. I'm not certain if they were from the same litter or not but all were in the same shape (puffy fur, very scrawny) She is a youngster in fact, she's very small compared to the rest of my gerbils and she's just finishing her first moult. I have new pics, but not sure if they will help. Please try not to mind her nose much, whatever breeder she came from, she had it before she even arrived the pet store because I am a frequent visitor there xD and she had the bald nose since she arrived there. She's still on quarantine. Took this to show her nails, they're brown at the base but lighter at the tips. Sorry for so many pictures, but hope they help!! Don't Colorpoint Agouti coats have brown-ish roots? It's been so long, but from what I recall even my own produced CPA had light tan roots in their coats. Double Edit; I took a closer look at her again and she probably is a normal CP Agouti, not light. Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it : )
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Post by MoonstoneGerbils on Aug 13, 2014 7:15:28 GMT -8
She is a LCPA.You can tell this by the nails, alone. CPA have black toenails (or near black). LCPA have brown toeneails and the fronts are often lighter than the back. CPA and LCPA have dark undercoats.
The other LCPA from 09 might not be a LCPA, i'd be inclined to think its actually a silver point (LCPN) i don't see any ticking on the fur.
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Post by Crystal on Aug 15, 2014 10:40:59 GMT -8
She is a LCPA.You can tell this by the nails, alone. CPA have black toenails (or near black). LCPA have brown toeneails and the fronts are often lighter than the back. CPA and LCPA have dark undercoats. The other LCPA from 09 might not be a LCPA, i'd be inclined to think its actually a silver point (LCPN) i don't see any ticking on the fur. I may find out via breeding her but not for some time (: Although your second comment baffles me! I bred my Sp. golden Agouti to a Black male who was carrying Cch or Ccb and Ee, as he came from a Siamese x Nutmeg. The Sp. Agouti female produced only Golden Agouti and CP Agouti because I later bred her again to a Dark Eyed Honey and they produced nothing but Golden Agouti, no colorpoints, no ee offspring either. So I was left to conclude she was EE and not Ee. The CP fella from 2009 had the tan undercoat and light brown nails like a LCP Agouti. So, I'm not sure?
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Post by betty on Aug 15, 2014 12:03:34 GMT -8
Here are my 'normal' CPAgs and they look a lot darker and more 'agouti' than yours: (far left is CPGrAg) And my 'normal' spotted CPAg girl:
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Post by MoonstoneGerbils on Aug 15, 2014 16:23:42 GMT -8
Hmm, well then that 09 LCPA is just very very light.
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Post by Crystal on Aug 16, 2014 10:30:44 GMT -8
I see, I see! Thanks Betty, I do agree my girl looks less Agouti but to me, she looks like the second to last gerbil in MoonstoneGerbils' signature picture. She is still going through her first molt, but like I said I hope to breed her in the future and I'll find out what she really is. And yeah! He was very light, but he in fact had the cinnamon tail. I even questioned his coat those many years ago and was told it was a normal LCPA. His parents genes match up so it had to have been CP Agouti and nothing else.
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Post by southy on Feb 6, 2021 13:47:32 GMT -8
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Post by Shooting Star on Feb 6, 2021 16:13:17 GMT -8
I'm actually not sure what color he is. Make a new thread.
Don't comment on threads that have been dead for more than a couple months. If you're not continuing an existing, ongoing conversation, always make your own thread.
Locking now.
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