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Post by chsrlox on Dec 22, 2020 18:38:18 GMT -8
How would I be able to breed a gerbil with the e(f) gene? There are no e(f) gerbils for sale within 100 miles of me and was wondering if I would breed one from any colour at all?
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Post by beachbumgerbils on Dec 23, 2020 6:14:50 GMT -8
Where are you located? In the US, there are a couple of really good small animal transport services that work with breeders. That might be able to open up more options for you.
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Post by betty on Dec 24, 2020 2:57:47 GMT -8
To breed schimmel/mold gerbils you need a varient of the e gene to be present. This e gene is what makes all the different honeys and nutmegs, and sometimes these colours can carry it without making a huge difference to their coat colour as older adults (but they might fade a bit). They might also, as younger gerbils, have the tell-tale tiny white head spot (even though they aren't genetically spotted). By finding and breeding together 2 healthy individuals of these 'maybes' - you can sometimes pull out a full schimmel/mold. But of course I am not suggesting you grab any old thing to try this - it was only if you had your own stock or some good stock from close by that didn't think they had schimmel/mold either. Far better as said above would be to contact a breeder of this gene itself nation-wide and get some decent or show stock to start your new lines. Here is one of my boys from the other thread... [a href="  "] Rex[/a] |
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Post by Shooting Star on Dec 25, 2020 7:52:05 GMT -8
You can make colors from different combinations of genes, but you can't make the genes themselves, they have to come from somewhere. If you don't have e[f] in your gerbils, you're never going to have it unless you bring it in on a new gerbil.
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Post by chsrlox on Dec 28, 2020 22:48:26 GMT -8
Where are you located? In the US, there are a couple of really good small animal transport services that work with breeders. That might be able to open up more options for you. I'm in the UK unfortunately and I've been told the ef gene doesn't exist/ is extremely rare in the UK, I have a few gerbils that have the ee gene which could be helpful? |
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Post by chsrlox on Dec 28, 2020 22:51:48 GMT -8
Where are you located? In the US, there are a couple of really good small animal transport services that work with breeders. That might be able to open up more options for you. I'm in the UK unfortunately and I've been told the ef gene doesn't exist/ is extremely rare in the UK, I have a few gerbils that have the ee gene which could be helpful? Would it be possible that my honey cream has the ef gene? I know she definitely has the ee gene but I've been told they can sometimes have the ef gene (her sisters are silver nutmeg and dark nutmeg |
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Post by betty on Dec 29, 2020 2:20:33 GMT -8
Yes, like I said - the ef gene CAN be hiding in a usually ee colour gerbil - but only if it was there in the first place.
The ef gene will be in place of the second e in the normal ee colours and in a young animal or an eeuwuw gerbil you can't even really see it.
The fact your full family are all ee colours will certainly help as it focusses the e gene - but remember: recessive genes need to be in pairs, so you need to have at least 2 eef gerbils to make a full one. Even if your honey cream is carrying the schimmel gene - they need to be paired with at least another carrier, or a full schimmel to get any schimmel pups in their litters.
If you are in the south of England, I do know a few schimmel breeders...
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Post by chsrlox on Dec 29, 2020 19:23:40 GMT -8
Yes, like I said - the e f gene CAN be hiding in a usually ee colour gerbil - but only if it was there in the first place. The e f gene will be in place of the second e in the normal ee colours and in a young animal or an eeuwuw gerbil you can't even really see it. The fact your full family are all ee colours will certainly help as it focusses the e gene - but remember: recessive genes need to be in pairs, so you need to have at least 2 ee f gerbils to make a full one. Even if your honey cream is carrying the schimmel gene - they need to be paired with at least another carrier, or a full schimmel to get any schimmel pups in their litters. If you are in the south of England, I do know a few schimmel breeders... I am down south actually, though it's really hard for me to travel more then 17 miles as I dont drive but where are the locations of those breeders? Thanks so much for helping |
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Post by betty on Dec 30, 2020 4:22:23 GMT -8
I will PM you...
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