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Post by Ritzie/Admin on Jun 17, 2005 0:22:59 GMT -8
We have now since the newest update a Karma feature!
I was wondering what you all think of it! Do you like it, or not? Do you want to keep it or not! Please vote on it, and you can add comments on the Karma feature in this thread!
Peter
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Post by doomgerbiluk on Jun 17, 2005 1:27:57 GMT -8
I voted no Myself I think it's just a bit of fun and could be a positive feature but I saw it cause choas on another board and would hate to see that happen here. TBH I have no idea what my karma is, it isn't something I would lose sleep over!!
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Post by tirilliel on Jun 17, 2005 4:57:26 GMT -8
I dont think its a good idea.. I voted No, I don’t want to keep it.
As stated on another thread the reason I say this is because I personally feel that if there are any members on a forum that are causing trouble then they should be dealt with by the administrator of the forum, not by the general public who post here. I think this system is also unfair in the way that people can make judgments about you not totally understanding for one thing, the person you are, or why you might have posted what you did in the first place that was taken offensively.
Another reason why Im not very fond of this idea is because people cant hear words, they cant hear whether something is said truthfully or sarcastic or in angry ect, unless of course they post a bunch of smiles to convey their emotional state at the time.
I think this system will automatically have others place false judgments and personas on others before getting to know them themselves because they base it on their karma rating.
Just the other day I had a good karam rating of 5 now today Im down to three. Normally I don’t care what people think and when it comes down to it I really don’t. But What does bother me is that people can “rate” my behavior without even giving any comment or explanation why and I feel that if someone is going to “smite” me I have the right to know why. I don’t agree with the karma feature, I feel that I should have to right to have this feature taken off my user name if I don’t want it.
I personally dont really see why its necessary or "fun" Isnt that like an oxymoron saying its a "fun" way to let people know when you dont like their way of posting? Maybe its fun for the person giving them the bad karma, but Im sure its not very fun receiving it!?? Does that make any sense at all?
People might abuse this feature and if there is an issue with someone about a post or thread then wouldnt it be more appropriate for them to PM that individual and politely let them know whats bothering them? How is giving someone bad karma going top help fix the problem? It would be better if the person was simply reported and talked to, or if the person that had the problem contact the other and explain to them what they said that was offensive, how is one to know what they are doing wrong when people simply just give them a karma rating, there is no way to learn what you said that was wrong, so therefore how do we fix it?
Well there is my little blurb on the issue. I like the forum allot better before the Karma was added, everyhting esle thats been updates is great!
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Post by tirilliel on Jun 17, 2005 10:20:35 GMT -8
Peter, Do you have a "mass email" option in your admin area, I ask this becasue if you can tell people about the recent poll you can get more answers and opinion from people that might not even look under this area much, I tend to do this with my hamster forum anyway when it comes to polls and opinions about the overall make up of the forum and find that I get more people posting their opinions then if I otherwise hadnt..
Just a thought...
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Post by sandy on Jun 17, 2005 12:46:23 GMT -8
Having Karma, good or bad, is against my religion.
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Post by tirilliel on Jun 17, 2005 12:54:37 GMT -8
I dont have a religion, But I feel that the concept of karma is ridiculous in the first place. The idea that there is some power/entity out there causing us to have bad situation and circumstances based on how we live our lives or treat others... Having "karma" if it were real, would not be up to any any another person besides ourself to give. And even if you labeled it something else I still don’t like it.. Oh by the way, did I mention I don’t like it
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Post by RyanF on Jun 17, 2005 18:48:33 GMT -8
I just think it is a bad idea. Plain and simple. Probably should stick with post counts and ranks only, lol.
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Post by gerbilsrgreat on Jun 17, 2005 22:11:37 GMT -8
I guess I don't really care but I think it's alright. If you had to give an explanation for your Exalt or Smite that might be good, but then maybe the whole idea just creates tension.
-Jeremiah
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Post by tirilliel on Jun 18, 2005 3:03:41 GMT -8
Peter, Just wondering, how many days do you have this poll running? Do you know when there will be a final verdict?
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Post by RyanF on Jun 18, 2005 6:19:21 GMT -8
As far as I know, I *think* it is an unlimited poll, but he will see the results soon and do something from there.
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Post by tirilliel on Jun 18, 2005 6:22:07 GMT -8
Thanks Ryan.
Fingers crossed that he takes it off.. I figure if there are some people that dont like it then its best to just take it off. People that do like it Im sure wont be that angry if its gone, they probably dont care if its there or not. The forum was fine without and, and now with it.. Well I think its better without it, because then its not an issue and a recurring problem.
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Post by doomgerbiluk on Jun 18, 2005 6:57:53 GMT -8
I think your getting this whole thing put of proportion Tirriliel. Plus it needs to be up long enough for a representative number of active members to vote. So you got smited?? Well have you looked back at your posts to see why someone might dislike how you present things? I'm sure if Peter gets the impression someone is being spiteful (ie continually smiting individuals) he will deal with that. Some forums use a points system which allows people to do all sorts of things to other peoples post if they have enough, others have 'forum cash' where your posts earn 'cash' and allow you to 'buy' things liek different colour fonts, my game clan forum even has a lottery and bookies!!!! Life's too short to let a number on a forum upset you.
and btw there are over 500 members...10 have voted not exactly representative.....please be patient
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Post by tirilliel on Jun 18, 2005 7:25:01 GMT -8
I think your getting this whole thing put of proportion Tirriliel. Plus it needs to be up long enough for a representative number of active members to vote. So you got smited?? Well have you looked back at your posts to see why someone might dislike how you present things? I'm sure if Peter gets the impression someone is being spiteful (ie continually smiting individuals) he will deal with that. Some forums use a points system which allows people to do all sorts of things to other peoples post if they have enough, others have 'forum cash' where your posts earn 'cash' and allow you to 'buy' things liek different colour fonts, my game clan forum even has a lottery and bookies!!!! Life's too short to let a number on a forum upset you. and btw there are over 500 members...10 have voted not exactly representative.....please be patient Point taken.. But I still dont like it,
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Post by Ritzie/Admin on Jun 18, 2005 7:25:08 GMT -8
Like Ryan said it is indeed an unlimited poll, I just see how it goes for a couple of weeks, I gues! I just want to see the opinion of active members. I'm not going to mass email (but I could), because I find the opinion of members who are here very often more important.
And like doomgerbiluk said, I always check the security log for the forums activities and possible problems. So when I get the impression someone is being spiteful (ie continually smiting individuals) I will deal with that.
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Post by tirilliel on Jun 18, 2005 8:01:12 GMT -8
Like Ryan said it is indeed an unlimited poll, I just see how it goes for a couple of weeks, I gues! I just want to see the opinion of active members. I'm not going to mass email (but I could), because I find the opinion of members who are here very often more important. And like doomgerbiluk said, I always check the security log for the forums activities and possible problems. So when I get the impression someone is being spiteful (ie continually smiting individuals) I will deal with that. Thanks for the Info Peter, I was just wondering how long you were going to let it run and when a verdict might be made
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