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Oct 28, 2004 7:47:39 GMT -8
Post by jaguar on Oct 28, 2004 7:47:39 GMT -8
I've asked this question at the photo's section as well, but this is the rightful place for it. Does anyone know what this colour is? The gerbil has been sold to me as silver nutmeg with a c(chm) gene, but I don't really think it is true. His tail and head aren't darker than the rest of his body. His belly seems a bit off-white...I don't really know..it is white, without ticking, but it seems to be a liiiiitle bit darker than my spotted agouti's belly. Someone at the photo's section said it could be a polarfox, does anyone have a clear pic of a polarfox?
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Oct 28, 2004 11:51:31 GMT -8
Post by RyanF on Oct 28, 2004 11:51:31 GMT -8
He must be a polar fox! Here is one:
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Oct 28, 2004 12:32:12 GMT -8
Post by jaguar on Oct 28, 2004 12:32:12 GMT -8
Do polar foxes have brown tails? Because my gerbils tale isn't brown...
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Oct 28, 2004 12:48:27 GMT -8
Post by andrea on Oct 28, 2004 12:48:27 GMT -8
I would say hes a colourpoint agouti.. But I don't know for sure. I thought silver nutmegs were darker Anyone else? Andrea
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Oct 28, 2004 13:12:37 GMT -8
Post by sandy2 on Oct 28, 2004 13:12:37 GMT -8
Any kind of non-spotted nutmeg will have ticking on the belly as well as the back. That looks like the case here, so I think it is some kind of lightened nutmeg. Maybe its a c(h) not c(chm) because I don't see any tail or nose concentration of colour. The ticking is quite strong, so it may be gg. I think your source is not that far off the mark, actually.
If you plan to breed him, you could mate him with a burmese and see if some of the offspring are siamese, which would answer your questions concerning the recessive c.
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Oct 28, 2004 13:13:04 GMT -8
Post by jaguar on Oct 28, 2004 13:13:04 GMT -8
Yes, silver nutmegs are darker. I have been told he has one c(chm) gene which would make him lighter than a normal silver nutmeg, but darker than a cp silver nutmeg. But as far as I know, the c(chm) gene has no effect on the phenotype of the gerbil if the gerbil is black eyed and only has 1 cp gene!
Doesn't a cp agouti also have a darker tail and nose?
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Oct 28, 2004 13:14:10 GMT -8
Post by jaguar on Oct 28, 2004 13:14:10 GMT -8
Any kind of non-spotted nutmeg will have ticking on the belly as well as the back. The gerbil doesn't have ticking on the belly...
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Oct 28, 2004 13:26:07 GMT -8
Post by sandy2 on Oct 28, 2004 13:26:07 GMT -8
Any chance of a picture of him higher on his haunches so we can see the belly? Also the ee genes in combination with c recessives will do strange things, apparently. There can be lightening if there is ee and only one c recessive present. Can you see any colour on the ticking, a colourpoint agouti type should have reddish brown ticking in certain angles and lights. If the gg genes are present there will be none of that (reddish brown fades to grey). A nutmeg will have the same colouration (more or less) on the belly and the front legs with no discernable line between (there is some slight lightening on the belly but not a definite demarkation, the colour should be continuous from belly to back)). He's a very cute fellow, by the way.
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Oct 28, 2004 13:43:37 GMT -8
Post by jaguar on Oct 28, 2004 13:43:37 GMT -8
Thanks! ;D He only has black/greyish ticking, he never had brownish ticking of any kind. I tried to make a good picture of his belly, but it's a bit late now so I had to be satisfied with artificial light...but I think it's still pretty clear. If not, just tell me and I'll try again tomorrow No ticking at all on the belly ;D
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Oct 28, 2004 20:21:21 GMT -8
Post by moghedien on Oct 28, 2004 20:21:21 GMT -8
Since he has no ticking on his belly he can't be a nutmeg anything. What color is the fur underneath? I know CP agoutis - I have one - have cinnamon-colored fur underneath. He's definitely too light for CP agouti, so perhaps he's a light CP agouti? If the fur underneath is grey instead of cinnamon, then he's probably a CP grey agouti, maybe even LCP grey agouti.
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Oct 28, 2004 20:39:10 GMT -8
Post by sandy2 on Oct 28, 2004 20:39:10 GMT -8
I'm thinking light colourpoint grey agouti..but wouldn't his nose and tail be slightly darkened then? He's definitely lightened somehow, and probably has gg. If he has ee then he's a light colourpoint Polar Fox, if not, then light colourpoint grey agouti. Well, I hope you breed him to find out for sure. At any rate, he is a beauty and well worth breeding with his good looks and good recessives!
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Oct 29, 2004 1:19:04 GMT -8
Post by jaguar on Oct 29, 2004 1:19:04 GMT -8
Wow! He's much more special than I thought! lol His fur underneath is white...I'll ask the breeder what colour his parents were, but she wasn't sure either because the colours were new to her back then and the parents have already passed away. But I can still give it a shot ;D I think she thought they were silver nutmeg and cp polarfox, but I'll ask her again. It's a pity, but I can't breed with him, my mum won't let me His 'roommate' is a black male and that's all. My mum doesn't want "all the trouble that comes along with pups" I've had some before but my only female passed away in August
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Oct 29, 2004 1:36:29 GMT -8
Post by jaguar on Oct 29, 2004 1:36:29 GMT -8
Oooh! I've just found a pic of Bailey when he was 6.5 weeks old!!! Aren't CP grey (and golden) agoutis already grey when they are young? Because Bailey clearly was yellowish...as you can see on the pic
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Oct 29, 2004 5:23:53 GMT -8
Post by queenofthenile on Oct 29, 2004 5:23:53 GMT -8
Your gerbil must have ee then. Other than that, I have no idea what colour it is.
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Oct 29, 2004 12:23:37 GMT -8
Post by RyanF on Oct 29, 2004 12:23:37 GMT -8
Never know, we might have discovered a new gerbil colour! ;D
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