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Post by paws on Dec 14, 2004 1:00:10 GMT -8
Well, the vet told us to neuter Phoenix and get a female. She says it doedsnt work any other way. Well, I believe you guys, but the vet says to do it that way.
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Post by queenofthenile on Dec 14, 2004 9:17:39 GMT -8
Paws, why would you have to neuter the male? You vet has something wrong with him/her . Just get another male pup and save your mom some $$!
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Post by paws on Dec 14, 2004 10:14:07 GMT -8
Well, I said the same thing, but the vet said that it's *not possible * but your right. Ah well, I'm paying for the neutering. how much is it in Canada? Obviously mine's here!
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Post by queenofthenile on Dec 14, 2004 14:13:43 GMT -8
Well, here it cost me $90 can. I think that's about 40 pounds... I'm not sure how much it would cost you. I would be much easier to just get a male pup...
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Post by paws on Dec 15, 2004 8:10:04 GMT -8
god, here it wouldl be about twice that. vets charge like heck here! To transalate exactly though, it would be about 87 sfr. It is a bit less here.
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Post by callimico on Dec 15, 2004 11:56:18 GMT -8
It's probably best to avoid neutering him if you can, no reason to put him in surgery if you can just as easily place him with a male pup. Introducing a male pup to a male is probably easier then male to female, and I've heard male's smell different after neutering, for a bit, so that may make it even harder. Go with the male pup, if your mom will let you. BTW, if someones got advise, I just bought a spotted burmese male (6 weeks) and a CP champion siamese female that is almost 3 and a half months. Should I wait for the male to mature to, 9 weeks, before introducing them? He'll still be smaller then her though
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Post by paws on Dec 15, 2004 12:36:36 GMT -8
maybe you can spit them, and breed them? NOt sure though.
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Post by queenofthenile on Dec 15, 2004 14:32:46 GMT -8
I'd try it now Callimico. You may have no troubles at all. If she beats on him too much, keep them split until he is large enough to defend himself.
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Post by sweetie on Dec 15, 2004 14:51:48 GMT -8
Hey Paws,
I agree with the members, *GET A YOUNG MALE PUP* Seriously, it is in the vets best interest for you to nueter the gerbil. He is not an *expert* on gerbils, or thier behavior. Don't think that you should not trust your instincts!! Just because he has a degree, does not make him an expert. I should know, I had knee surgery and had to have 4 more to correct the original one becuase the DR did not know what he was doing. Not every one who graduates is the best or an expert. There are many people who do not hold degrees that know MORE than he does about behavior and interaction. He knows about *body parts* and that is probably the extent of his/her knoweldge.
Cal, You could introduce them now. I introduced Momma Bear (older) to Squirt (6 weeks). There was no aggression at all. Squirt is now about 13-14 weeks and they have not had pups yet, but get along great.
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Post by queenofthenile on Dec 15, 2004 17:24:58 GMT -8
Paws, I also wanted to mention that the neutering surgery can be dangerous. Many gerbils will have seizures in response to the anaesthetic. If your vet isn't all that knowledgeable about gerbils, your gerbil may die. My gerbil Rowan had seizures during the surgery. Luckily, he recovered with no problems. It is definately not something you want to do if it isn't necessary. Please just get a cute male pup instead .
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Post by callimico on Dec 15, 2004 17:57:26 GMT -8
Alright, I'll intro them right away. I've bought them but they aren't going to arrive until the 23rd. They're second cousins once removed on the males mothers side, that's not enough to be considered in breeding right?lol, I was suprised how far both their lineages went back (Great Great Great Grandparents & GGGp's!!) It was pretty cool too see, they're descended from about 15 different clans. I'm glad your intro went well Sweetie, did she scare him when they first met? The only time I intro'd gerbils when both were pups the female sniffed noses w/the male and he almost fainted from fright before running around the cage hysterically squeaking while she watched from the corner, totally confused. He finally stopped running and let her groom him, but kept squeaking for a couple days even though she was very gentle with him, if she layed down next to him he would dart across the tank, lol, poor little guy. He finally figured out she wanted to be friends and after 3 days he became completely devoted to her ;Dawww
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Post by paws on Dec 16, 2004 8:44:35 GMT -8
I'm talking to my mum about it. Thanx guys. My vet really knows alot about them, but you're right, it's for best interest. She has 3 gerbils.
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Post by callimico on Dec 28, 2004 13:47:56 GMT -8
Well they came the 23rd late at night. THe siamese female is sooo beautiful, and so is the spotted burmese boy. After split caging 3 days I let them together and the boy got a little pushy and they kept tensing up when they got close. She started pushing him down and he'd squeak a lot, he's actually almost the same size as her. I was a little worried but I watched them closely the entire day, and well, now they're getting on VERY well, and I can say I'm expecting pups 25 days from now. ;D ;D Thanks for the advise!! I think I worry more about introductions then they do. The mottled agouti I got is so sweet I placed him right in the tank with Fate and they hit it off immediately, and are very close to one another. ;D ;D I'll post pic's as soon as I take some!!!
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