Post by moondancer on Aug 16, 2021 22:57:12 GMT -8
Here is the second litter, they are one week old today. It seems I have a few greys this time. She has cut up three of them (not sure why) but on her own as she was aggressive with the two girls. So fair I believe there are more girls. Don't think I have PEWS this time either
Boy (it was a big give away as he as bugle)
Sapphire spotted, female I believe
Sapphire soild, male
Sapphire solid, female I believe
Ginger solid, male I think (I am sure he had a bugle)
Sapphire solid, male
The other two I didn't take as they were getting cold and I kept thinking I grab the same one twice lol
Here are the head shots of the girls am correct of the colours here
Mum - red eye honey spotted Dad - sapphire spotted
The grey changed to ginger the sneaky devil's
Here I believe I have (if you need belly shots more clearly let me know I can upload them)
2 x red eye honey spotted 1 x saffron spotted 1 x argente Fawn solid 1 x saffron solid 1 x lilac or sapphire (very dark) spotted 1 x dove or sapphire (very pale) spotted 1 x honey cream pied/spotted/mottled No PEWS never mind
Yes, that looks about right on colours give or take a ginger!
I am not sure whether we identified that your mum carried the ch (light gene) did we from the last litter - I can't remember? This is the gene needed for a Dove/Argente Cream. I don't have time just now to go and find it - but will loook agin over the weekend.
Now we have a second litter and more stats we can build up a better picture of most of the hidden genes.
The dark grey is a Lilac for sure. Spotting lightens the grey - so if he is lightened and still that dark - he must be Lilac.
I can't find my notes - but wasn't the mum and dad DEH (with cp) and Sapphire (most likely)? This means that with the pups showing in the percentages given that the parents are most likely the following:
REHoney: Aa Ccchm ee pp Uw* Sapphire: aa Ccchm Ee pp Uw*
* pups can only 'show' a uwd gene if both parents have one - but this doesn't mean that one parent doesn't have it - you just won't know if they do until you test breed then singly to a known carrier.
This gives you roughly the following pups in almost equal measure:
Yes, statistically they should be in there - but as the genes for cp and p are 'linked' they often appear together in a slightly higher percentage than a punnett square would suggest, this also means that they could NOT appear at all.
I can't look back through right now - but perhaps fill in numbers for the table I create above with actual pup colour numbers alongside the predicted colours and see what it looks like overall. I mean the percentages don't work out for each litter of course, but over time they look more and more like the full monty.