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Post by Ritzie/Admin on Aug 22, 2005 5:39:52 GMT -8
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Post by Ritzie/Admin on Aug 22, 2005 5:47:48 GMT -8
In this article they mention four subspecies:
Meriones unguiculatus unguiculatus (Milne-Edwards, 1867)
Meriones unguiculatus kurauchii Mori, 1939
Meriones unguiculatus selenginus Heptner, 1949
Meriones unguiculatus kozlovi (Satunin, 1902)
Are they stil valid? And if yes, what are the Mongolian gerbils that we keep as pets? Does anyone know more?
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Post by Ritzie/Admin on Aug 23, 2005 5:40:46 GMT -8
Well not valid according to Eddie! His post on this on his forum: Hi, They missed one off  According to the Smithsonian museum of natural history they list 4 synonyms for Meriones Unguiculatus, these are; Chihfengensis, Koslovi, Kurauchii, and Selengenus. For a scientific explanation of synonymy, try here, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synonym_(biology)Eddie God what is proboards problem recently with urls? You will have to scroll down a bit for scientific definition of synonyms, or cut and past the original addy i gave you. |
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Post by devun on Aug 23, 2005 13:09:33 GMT -8
that was an interesting closing remark about the danger of releasing gerbils into the environment where they might survive and threaten native species. Does anybody know of a wild gerbil community that resulted from the release of pet gerbils?
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Post by Ritzie/Admin on Aug 26, 2005 5:37:40 GMT -8
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Post by sorchajude on Sept 9, 2005 9:33:22 GMT -8
lol i had a look at it but im not really sure i under stood much . ellorie  |
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Post by malabui on Sept 17, 2007 0:29:22 GMT -8
Actually I knew someone from California who apparently had a wild colony of gerbils and Dwarf hamsters living near or in their garden. Would anyone else if they had one living near them try to catch them?
Erm... also what is the point of showing all these papers if you cannot get access to the papers either online or off line (this applies currently to the other boards)?
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Post by Shooting Star on Sept 17, 2007 7:02:59 GMT -8
Erm... also what is the point of showing all these papers if you cannot get access to the papers either online or off line (this applies currently to the other boards)? The original link in this post still works. For the papers that are just cited, you can find them online if you have a subscription to an e-journal database, and off line if you know of a library with a section for scientific journals (university libraries are a good bet). I'm fairly sure it's a copyright violation to save a PDF of the actual article and put it online, but if you're interested in a particular article, I can email it to you. |
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Post by malabui on Sept 18, 2007 6:21:09 GMT -8
For the papers that are just cited, you can find them online if you have a subscription to an e-journal database, and off line if you know of a library with a section for scientific journals (university libraries are a good bet). I'm fairly sure it's a copyright violation to save a PDF of the actual article and put it online, but if you're interested in a particular article, I can email it to you. Thats the thing, most people, like me do not have any subscription to e-journals or any local libraries that will have the journals or any actually knowing the quality of my local one. Besides, you can't just wander into any Uni library to look at it. That also makes it difficult for us to email you for ones to read. |
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Post by Shooting Star on Sept 20, 2007 17:36:12 GMT -8
Lol, I'm spoiled I suppose-- my local Uni doesn't mind if you look at things in the libraries. You just can't check things out unless you're a student, and the journals can't be checked out anyway. The lists of gerbil-related articles are here for anyone who is interested and can access them. Even if some people can't access the articles, it doesn't mean we shouldn't have the information out there for people who can.  I'm not sure how the lack of access makes it difficult to request articles via email-- could you clarify? If it's something I can fix, I'd be happy to. |
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Post by malabui on Sept 21, 2007 1:43:40 GMT -8
Well how do you know that a particular article has what you want in it rather than just 1 line of some vague relevance to what you want to know about?
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Post by gerbilmummy on Sept 22, 2007 4:24:29 GMT -8
Hi, I think it is really great that there are now references to the evidence base regarding gerbil husbandary on this forum. the fact that the mod team have taken the time to research and find them shows that they are keen to improve how we gain our knowledge on here. With regards to libraries most will allow you to look at their stock as reference ie you can't take them out if you are not a student at the uni but if you put a good case across ie you are doing a piece of research on gerbils then most will be willing to help. For those of you still at school or college you should be a ble to make a case to your principle/head teacher to get a school subscription to a couple of the data bases shootingstar has added to the forum. I think we need to explore ways in which we share good informatation and if you Pm the mods they will be able to help with the e mailing situation i am sure ;D
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Post by Shooting Star on Sept 23, 2007 11:42:08 GMT -8
Malabui, what I think you're looking for is an abstract: a paragraph or two that summarizes the main points of the article. If you google the article title, you should find at least one site that has the abstract for free. Read through the abstract of the article, and see if it's something you'd like to read in full. If so, let me know, and I'll get you the whole article. |
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