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Post by sweetie on Aug 27, 2004 4:21:13 GMT -8
Hey there, Yup!! I have gerbilitis. I went on a ride to find a location that I will be helping out for adoptions and it was near the pet shop I bought 2 of my 4 gerbils at. Well my little voice told me that I had to bring my little carriers. I have seen pictures of all your beautiful gerbils and I wanted a Siamese or a Burmese and I think I have one. Can you help me? PLEASE tell me what colors I have. Here is Bear (short for Mamma Bear) she is older: And here again: And here is Munchie. He is a young male pup who is doing great with the other 2 boys. What do you think? What colors did I get?
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Post by RW on Aug 27, 2004 4:42:18 GMT -8
Hi, Sweetie. I'm not very good at identifying colorpoints, so I'll leave that to someone who is. Munchie looks very similar to my Tweek, who is either Honey Cream or spotted light nutmeg, so I'd guess he might be some variety of DEH or nutmeg. Tweek Regardless, they're both very healthy looking and gorgeous! One question, though. Do you not quarantine new arrivals? RW
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Post by sweetie on Aug 27, 2004 4:47:06 GMT -8
No I don't, I look for little mites and at the appearance. I make sure there is no obvious signs of cuts, drainage from mouth, nose, eyes. I also look for firm poops before I put them in together but I don't quarentine them. What am I missing RW?? Help me out. Should I?
Thanks for the color and compliments. I haven't noticed any mottling so he might be a honey cream. They both have teh best temperments.
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Post by RW on Aug 27, 2004 5:08:28 GMT -8
Mites are fairly easy to spot, if you know what to look for, but I worry (OK, I'm paranoid) about bringing in diseases that might infect my resident population.
There are some diseases that may take a while to develop, like Tyzzer's, so a healthy appearance is not always a guarantee that a gerbil is healthy.
I have had at least one occasion to be grateful that I never bring in a new gerbil without quarantining it. Back in March, I bought a little pied dove guy at one of the chain pet stores. He was in a tank with about 15 pups and they all looked and acted very healthy. Within four days he had diarrhea. Despite vet care and antibiotics, he died two days after he got sick. Thank God, I never exposed my other gerbils and am a fanatic about washing my hands!
I'm not trying to scare you, but I found out for myself that it pays to be cautious.
RW
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Post by Gwirrel on Aug 27, 2004 5:10:36 GMT -8
hey,
I am not sure about the Colourpoint Gerbil... It looks like either a CP Slate or Burmese. I think it might be a little too dark to be a Siamese.
The other is either a DEH or a Schimmel. You can easily check this by seing whether or not it has a white belly. A Nutmeg is a much deeper colour, unless of course it is lightened, but this too will have a solid orange tummy.
I always quarentine any new Gerbil or Hamster that I bring into the house... The quarenting period is usually 2 weeks, or longer. This is because the Gerbil may not show any symptons for a while... So there is always a risk that they may develop Diarrhoea in a few days or weeks time. Something like e.coli or Tyzzers doesn't always show until they are stressed for some reason.
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Post by sweetie on Aug 27, 2004 5:20:28 GMT -8
That's what makes this Forum excellent. The experience of the members!! You are not scaring me but informing me for which I am greatful. Thank you for that feed back. I was unaware of that. I have not yet integrated the female for obvious reasons. The intro was horrible. The other 2 girls really did not even like her scent. They were thumping and carrying on. I knew it would be unlikely to integrate the female but she was so lonely and BEAUTIFUL ;D. The little guy Munchie was so cute. He kept jumping into my hand. Thanks again for the feedback. I will keep my eye out for the symptoms you stated. I will not have to deal with it again for a long time I am sure. I can't bring any more gerbils in to this house for a LOOOOONG time if you know what I mean Gwirrel, Thanks for the coloring!! I was hoping for a burmese but even if she's not, I love her anyway. She is just gorgeous!!! Do you have pictures? Did you see Rw & the other members clan's? Welcome to the Forum.
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Post by queenofthenile on Aug 27, 2004 5:49:30 GMT -8
Does Munchie have spotting? If not, then he is too light to be schimmel. I'm betting light DEH, because a honey cream has spotting.
Bear looks like a cp slate to me. That would be very cool! It may just be the lighting, however, so she could be burmese.
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Post by sweetie on Aug 28, 2004 11:12:25 GMT -8
Munchie does not have any spotting as of yet. He is about 7 weeks old. He is all cream/golden on the top and white on the belly. What genetic combination would this be? He sounds like a twinkie. Golden on the outside with a cream in the middle. Bear has a golden around her back legs and a stripe on her belly. can you see itin the first picture where she is standing up? Here is another picture so you can see different shading/back grounds. I am not sure if these pictures help. I visited the color pallette and could not find her on there.
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Post by queenofthenile on Aug 28, 2004 16:43:43 GMT -8
She still looks either cp slate or burmese to me. I think the golden colour on her feet is just an abberation, maybe due to molting . Does she look like Asha? (see www.gerbilbreeding.com/mygerbs.htm) Asha is the first gerbil on that page. I'm still pretty sure that Munchie is a light DEH. He certainly is very cute .
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Post by sweetie on Aug 30, 2004 13:11:10 GMT -8
She looks liks asha but also the dad too. Maybe it's the lighting. some days she looks dark and other days lighter. I may sound stupid but what is DEH? Wow I have a burmese!!! The possibilities!!!
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Post by RW on Aug 30, 2004 16:19:15 GMT -8
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Post by sweetie on Aug 31, 2004 6:18:51 GMT -8
Thanks, I have been working trying to figure out what colors I have and what possible colors I could get if I were to pair mine up to breed. I am still trying to figure out what Bear is since she is in between the Siamese and Burmeses. She is darker than Siamese but yet not as dark as the Burmese. I looked at several sights Color pallette, Queenies, and one other and she is in between the colors. Could she still be developing her coat or moulting? Queenie, I think I almost have the genetics thing and I will instamessage you with my results of possible pairings and you can let me know if I did it right!!
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Post by andrea on Aug 31, 2004 6:24:50 GMT -8
hi
She does look like a CP slate to me as shes not brown enough to be burmese. If I were you I would pair her with another CP coloured gerbil. As shes CP slate I would pair her with a siamese, then you would have the possibility of siamese, LCP slate and CP slate and assuming there burmese in her background burmese to.
Andrea
BTW, siamese, burmese and CP slate are tempreture varient colours, so your gerbil may appear darker or lighter dependant on the tempreture. The main way to tell the difference between the three is
siamese is essentially a very light CP black burmese is essentially a CP brown CP slate is essentially a CP grey
Hope that helps.
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Post by sweetie on Aug 31, 2004 6:57:58 GMT -8
It does help. I do not have another gerbil to pair her with like you suggested. I have a Black or an Agouti. I am going to figure out colorings and IM Queenie. I will IM you also and see what you think.
I am not allowed to bring in any more gerbils I was informed. OOOOPS!!! I need to work with what I have. I actually need to get more housing for them. Right now they are fine but if I have pups, I will need 2 more tanks on for the girls and 1 for the boys.
BTW what is CP.... color point?
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Post by andrea on Aug 31, 2004 7:05:14 GMT -8
oh yes sorry CP is colourpoint.. *Make mental note to stop shorting terms* ;D
Humm Black or Agouti... when you say agouti i assume you mean golden agouti rather than grey agouti?. It really depends on the recessives your gerbils are carrying. I will have a think and come back to you. ;D
Andrea
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