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Post by peschanka on Mar 25, 2005 22:31:41 GMT -8
Two my siamese gerbils get pup with white coat and black eyes and dark tail. Can siamese pair get light colorpoint agouti pup?  |
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Post by sandy on Mar 26, 2005 13:24:51 GMT -8
No, because that would require an A dominant gene and both Siamese do not have it. However, it sounds like it is maybe an ee gene pup, like a Nutmeg or silver Nutmeg. The ee gene pups' underfur is white and they have dark eyes, ear tips and tails when pigment comes in. After a while they turn orange as they fur grows in, and later, at around 7 to 10 weeks, dark ticking develops turning the orange fur to brown. If it is a silver nutmeg with both ee and gg, it will not get orange but will still get dark ticking later on.
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Post by peschanka on Mar 26, 2005 21:32:29 GMT -8
His back  Can he be colorpoint or silver nutmeg and how i guess what color is?   |
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Post by RitzieAnn on Mar 27, 2005 23:18:57 GMT -8
Could it be a DEW? I'm not sure what genes that takes...
Came out of 2 siamese, huh? Wish I could have bred that! I wanted one! (But I got one very similar (LCP agouti from Sandy)
Your little gerbie is pretty!
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Post by sandy on Mar 27, 2005 23:34:10 GMT -8
I think we'll have to wait and see what he looks like when he gets his points (dark nose, ears and tail)
It does look a lot like a light colourpoint agouti. Are you 100% sure that the pup was not bred from a Siamese and another colourpoint male with a dominant A? Could it be possible? If so, then the pup will develop dark ticking at 7 to 10 weeks.
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Post by Shanawaz on Mar 27, 2005 23:36:41 GMT -8
It could be a Dark tailed white . I really really like that baby . Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Cute !!!
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Post by sandy on Mar 27, 2005 23:37:59 GMT -8
No, DTW's have pink eyes. Always. Here is a link to what a Silver Nutmeg looks like when a pup, and later when ticking comes: www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/silvernutmeg.htmlHmmm looks a LOT like the Colourpoint Silver Nutmeg in the picture! If so you are a very lucky girl! Beautiful! |
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Post by peschanka on Mar 28, 2005 5:55:24 GMT -8
His parents is really siamese. His mother Lady  His father Berill  So he is colorpoint silver nutmeg? And he can carry gg ? |
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Post by AndreaS15 on Mar 28, 2005 11:23:08 GMT -8
I would say Mom's a Burmese and Dads a Siamese.
At elast that's what the pictures look like to me.
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Post by callimico on Mar 28, 2005 11:47:36 GMT -8
Wow, your pup is really beautiful! She looks like a CP nutmeg to me to, if both parent's carried aacbchEeGGPP you should statistically get:
38% Siamese
25% DTW
19% Burmese
12.5% Light Colorpoint Nutmeg
6% Colorpoint Nutmeg
Is their second/third litter? It would make since if the color didn't pop until now, if they do carry Ee you're really lucky!! ;D
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Post by RitzieAnn on Mar 28, 2005 12:43:17 GMT -8
Mom might be burmese, it's possible, but I know My keebler is super dark, but I've had a breeder look at him in person, and she thinks the's just a dark Siamese with both the CP gene, and the hymilain gene. ((Here's Keebler))  |
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Post by callimico on Mar 28, 2005 13:04:48 GMT -8
aww, really cute picture Ritzie Anne,  you're right, Keebler does look dark for a siamese, it's an interesting color variation. I think Peschanka's gerbils are both Siamese, especially if they have had DTW pups before (requires ch from both parents). |
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Post by sandy on Mar 28, 2005 13:39:11 GMT -8
Yes, me too, I think they are both Siamese. I suppose he could be a Light Colourpoint Nutmeg? But I would expect some peach in the fur, so maybe a Light Colourpoint Silver Nutmeg, or a Colourpoint Silver Nutmeg? I haven't seen any of those in the flesh, so I wouldn't know for sure. You are very lucky!!! Definitely one to keep. By breeding it further you can find out what it is for sure.
Light Colourpoint Nutmeg: [aa c(b)c(h) ee G* DD P*]
Colourpoint Nutmeg: [aa c(b)c(b) ee G* DD P*]
Light Colourpoint Silver Nutmeg: [aa c(b)c(h) ee gg DD P*]
Colourpoint Silver Nutmeg: [aa c(b)c(b) ee gg DD P*]
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Post by peschanka on Mar 30, 2005 10:11:43 GMT -8
His parents have got new litte, but pups haven't got fur already
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you're right, Keebler does look dark for a siamese, it's an interesting color variation. I think Peschanka's gerbils are both Siamese, especially if they have had DTW pups before (requires ch from both parents).