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Post by shortlilangel03 on Jul 14, 2004 17:07:57 GMT -8
I was wondering if this will work as a breeding pair? How many will they most likey produce a month? Thanks A Bunch Shorty
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Post by j on Jul 16, 2004 1:38:14 GMT -8
Have you done any research at all on gerbils?
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Post by andrea on Jul 16, 2004 1:45:30 GMT -8
urmm. no it wouldn't work the females WILL fight and possibly kill each others pups, gerbils pair up kinda like swans and haveing two females would be like having a wife and a mistress if they ever met !! . god help you.. ;D
Andrea
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Post by Ritzie/Admin on Jul 16, 2004 3:09:26 GMT -8
I have had once two females together, but one was pregnant! (I bought her pregnant). She got her pups, and both females raised them, but when the pups became sexually mature, those two adult females started to fight over a male! Normally only the dominant female is allowed to breed in a gerbil group. One females ended up with a lot of wound, and if I had not intervened, probablly with one dead female!
In rare occasions both females will get pregnant, but than you will have a high risk of problems.
So please don't put 2 females with 1 male. Just 1 female with 1 male, in the wild it works that way too.
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Post by shortlilangel03 on Jul 16, 2004 10:54:58 GMT -8
They are all together in one cage right now and are all the same age at the pet store they were in seperate cages. They are getting along fine. I'm not to worried about them raising the pups. You might find this mean but it is what I purchased them for. To breed pinkys for my sugar gliders. I will let them raise a couple of pups out of every litter or so. but main reason is for pinkys or fuzzies. I was just wondering if they will breed. I was told it was okay to put 4 or 5 females to one male. But I don't need that many babies for two gliders. my freezer would be full and my mom would kill me. Hope you can understand it's just a fact of nature. You can state your own opinion on it but I'm not changing my mind. Gliders come first. If it's a must I will remove the one female and set her up with a mate. but that would be the only change. Thanks for understanding and helping me. Shorty
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Post by shortlilangel03 on Jul 16, 2004 11:04:10 GMT -8
also don't get me wrong about Gerbils. I used to have three when I was younger and I loved them so much. these one's are loved to. They are one of my favorite rodents' besides chinchilla's squrirrells (sp?) Bunnies,...... and on.. and on. Gliders are not a rodent they are more closely related to a kangaroo or Koala than a rodent. They are a marsupial. They are classified as an austrailan possom. not Oppossom. Shorty
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Post by queenofthenile on Jul 17, 2004 7:21:11 GMT -8
Regardless of whether you are breeding for feeders, it isn't wise to have 2 females in with a male. The adults will very likely wind up fighting and kill each other. If you are aiming to breed, then you should pair the male and female, and find a male or female mate for the other gerbil (depending on how much breeding you have to do). Although the gerbs seem to get along now, when they hit the age between 4-8 months, the females will fight and you will likely have a lot of bloodshed.
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Post by floppy on Jul 17, 2004 11:59:04 GMT -8
Although what you are doing may be a fact of nature, I personally think it's disgusting. They may do it themselves in the wild but how you can say you had gerbils before and loved them makes me wonder how you can do this. I understand that you love your gliders, I have even thought that further down the line I might like to have some myself. However, I couldn't have them if it involved breeding rodents to feed them. Is there another way you can do it? Please don't tell me how you kill the pups or that you feed them live or whatever...that kind of thing upsets me! Do they really need pinkies to survive? Also, what everyone else says is true. only put one female and male together...
Floppy
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Post by lizzy on Jul 17, 2004 14:21:02 GMT -8
how can you love gerbils and breed them for feeding? that much meat is unhealthy for sugar gliders anyway. so you're killing gerbils to kill your sugar gliders.. oh yeah, and rabbits aren't rodents.
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Post by andie on Jul 17, 2004 14:29:07 GMT -8
lalalala quoting a professional animal rescuer ect ect, i am quoting: " ....they need insects in their diet. but you can use meat as a cheap substitude. no, they don't eat gerbils....well they'd eat pinkie gerbils, not adults though hell adult gerbils outweight gliders. and giving them that much meat is unhealthy,they're meat to eat fruit, sap, and insects."
rawr.
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Post by RW on Jul 17, 2004 14:31:23 GMT -8
I would have to agree that feeding gerbil pinkies to a sugar glider is not a good idea. While a sugar glider's diet needs to be supplimented with protien items, crickets and mealworms are a healthier, less expensive choice and offer equal or better nutritional value. Insects are a good source of vital nutrients, and are closer to the wild diet of a sugar glider. Too much protien can cause a poor absorption of calcium, and a fatty meat like a baby gerbil is a poor choice. I would reccomend feeding your gliders a balanced diet of pelleted feed, fresh fruits and veggies, vitamin powder, and insects. You can also buy saps and nectars similar to those of the trees they eat from in the wild. It will probably leave them more fit and trim, and avoid the killing of gerbils As the former owner of two wonderful, healthy gliders and a worker at a zoo with a sugar glider exhibit, I'm pleased to tell you that gerbils are non-essential to a glider's wellbeing and health.
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Post by queenofthenile on Jul 17, 2004 17:30:56 GMT -8
That's a relief to know that you don't need to feed pinkies for the best nutrition. When I replied to this question, I assumed that there was no other option.
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Post by floppy on Jul 17, 2004 17:59:20 GMT -8
It certainly is a relief. After I replied to this earlier, I decided to have a look at sugar glider sites. And they DO NOT NEED pinkies in order to be healthy. Insects seem to very popular and I have seen that crickets are especially good. I don't imagine that in the wild they would run into burrows and steel pinkies anyway! I think it's very cruel of you to breed gerbils in order to feed your sugar gliders when it just isn't necessary...
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Post by shortlilangel03 on Jul 17, 2004 21:41:47 GMT -8
First off where are you getting off on telling me how to feed my gliders. I only feed Mika Pinkies when she is pregnant, and nursing. Second gliders in the wild in the cooler months when bugs are more scarce. Guess what they feed off of Mice Wild Gerbils, Snakes, Lizards, Birds. And anything smaller or the same size as them. You all need to crawl out of you shell's and realize the world is not full of sunshine and rainbows. You all jumped to conclusions. I feel I got a better answer about gerbils on my glider board than here. I also got a better answer from my pervious experience with gerbils. I had two males and a female at one time and they lived in perfect harmony for three years they did of old age. Not all gerbils are the same. Not all come from the same mold. Unless I'm the only person out there that thinks they all have there each own little personality. oh but wait I am cruel and don't care for them so I wouldn't have time to notice this. I am very hurt. I will not be returning. Thanks for you help anyways. Shorty
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Post by wth on Jul 18, 2004 4:11:36 GMT -8
First off where are you getting off on telling me how to feed my glidersYou're the one getting off on telling us you don't care about gerbils and are going to breed them for sugar gliders. Does this look like that kind of forum to you??? You didn't even have to tell us that part, you could've just asked your question and left... I don't really care anyways. But it is retarded. Sugar gliders don't eat gerbils. It's the same with snakes.. People feed them to snakes, it's NOT a natural diet. Mice is natural. You should go do some more research on where gerbils are from and where Sugar Gliders are from since you care about your gliders so much.. I had two males and a female at one time and they lived in perfect harmony for three years they did of old age. Right. Poor female. I guess you consider being pregnant every single day of your life "perfect harmony". .....I have deleted a part of your text. Please don't use any offending language! Everyone has it right to have their own opinion! Peter (administrator)
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