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Post by sorchajude on Sept 10, 2005 13:11:01 GMT -8
thanks
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Post by RitzieAnn on Sept 30, 2005 21:08:35 GMT -8
Otherwise I have no idea if the tails are more of a grey color
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Post by sorchajude on Oct 2, 2005 5:26:15 GMT -8
yea they are biy more like that
ellorie
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Post by squeaksister on Oct 2, 2005 5:48:15 GMT -8
So are their tails brown or orange? A schimmel doesnt change from white to another color it goes from orange to white.
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Post by ashgerbil on Oct 2, 2005 7:40:11 GMT -8
yes, that's right squeaksister. a schimmel would've started out looking more like a DEH and then gradually faded, how old were they when you got them ellorie? they could be lcp agoutis are something like that what colour are their ears and feet? or are they another colour with the schimmel gene in them? hehe, sorry, i'm really bad with genetics and stuff
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Post by sandy on Oct 2, 2005 13:29:44 GMT -8
There can be Red Eyed Schimmels, and Spotted/Pied Red Eyed Schimmels are even lighter. Maybe that's what you've got. Unfortunately I can't see your picture to say for sure. Also could be a Pied or mottled Ivory Cream, Pied/Mottled Apricot, lots of different possibilities. But a schimmel fades from an orange-toned pup to white with orange points.
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Post by RitzieAnn on Oct 2, 2005 17:58:30 GMT -8
Hey Sandy, put up some pictures of Angela (?) the one you had for the summer, and weren't quite sure what she was.... didn't she have a little creamy color to her?
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Post by sandy on Oct 2, 2005 21:33:09 GMT -8
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Post by sweetie on Oct 3, 2005 5:51:12 GMT -8
Yes indeed, beautiful gerbil!
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Post by sandy on Oct 3, 2005 9:09:01 GMT -8
So any guesses on her colour? Her pups did not produce any ee or gg gerbils when bred together. Paired with a pied Agouti (Fraser, in the pic who carried a and p only) she had Agouti, Black, Argente Cream, and Dove pups in plain and pieds. Her offspring have not proven to carry anything exceptional except c(h). Yet she so looked like a pied Ivory Cream or Pied light Apricot! She had been living on shredded paper, so she was not stained at all, either.
As far as I can see she was either a heavily pied dove or a heavily pied PEW with two c(h) genes.
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Post by sorchajude on Oct 3, 2005 11:42:56 GMT -8
i really dont no what they are . they do look a bit like some of the photos but not egsacly(mind my spelling ) like them so i really dont no what they are i got them when they where 8 weeks old and they where pure white then after 4 months thay went creamy and there tails went darker but they dont look like dark tailed whites
ellorie
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Post by squeaksister on Oct 3, 2005 11:45:11 GMT -8
From what I understand DTW coloring can really differ depending on their recessive genes and the temperature of their environment.
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Post by sorchajude on Oct 3, 2005 11:46:25 GMT -8
so then they might be dark tail white ?? im so confused ellorie
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Post by squeaksister on Oct 3, 2005 11:50:44 GMT -8
Can you post pics again?
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Post by sandy on Oct 3, 2005 17:12:41 GMT -8
There is quite a bit of variation in DTW's depending on what other recessives they carry such as spotting, grey genes, etc. And it takes them about 6 months for their colour to develop, so if your gerbils is under 6 months it could still turn into a DTW given more time. DTW's are born pure white all over but their eyes are slightly less pink than normal PEW's and their ears have a very slight greyish tinge.
I looked again at my logged stats for Angela's pups and grandpups and all her pups carried c(h), which means she was at least [*a c(h)c(h) DD ** ** pp Spsp] or a pied PEW. I don't believe she carried e or g but I only tried a couple of litters from two of her offspring then quit.
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