Vixen
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Post by Vixen on Mar 19, 2008 7:26:12 GMT -8
Is it me or is this forum turning into a stroppy play ground.
No I not just moaning about resent post's to myself, I mean in general.
It just seems member are to qick to jump on others, to quick to make a pont weather it helpful or not, and to quick to be rude, and to be honest it making this forum a horried place to be.
I use to enjoy posting here, but I even considered leaving in the last few weeks. Because I sick of the childish comments. I know the mods are trying there best, and I know we have many members here that are children (under 18) but when it starting to show through, I think it can only damage a good forum.
I been using forums for about 6 years, and had my fair share of aduse on them as well. I also been here I beleave about 2 years, and beleave this is the worse this forum ever been.
I use a few simple rules when I post, sometimes I don't always obay them but it a start.
1, If I can't post anything useful, I don't post
2, If all I have to say is rude, I don't post (i not always good at keeping this one)
3, repsect others desitions no matter how much I disagrea, it's there life, who am I to interfear.
4, If you don't like what someone post's don't read there post's.
and most inportantly
5, I try my best to help members when I can, but I always remember I can only do so much
please guys think about what you post, think how it could been seen my not only the member posting but new members who maybe scared to post because of repercutions.
and respect others opinions weather you like them or not.
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Post by Elvis on Mar 19, 2008 7:49:49 GMT -8
That has cheered up a dull day ... hilarious!
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Post by Someone on Mar 19, 2008 7:58:17 GMT -8
I totally, utterly and completely agree Ferrikins!
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Vixen
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Post by Vixen on Mar 19, 2008 7:58:52 GMT -8
That has cheered up a dull day ... hilarious! well I glad it cheered you up. but it was'nt supose to be funny |
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Post by someone else on Mar 19, 2008 8:10:24 GMT -8
Very well said, Ferrikins. I agree completely.
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Post by RitzieAnn on Mar 19, 2008 8:14:40 GMT -8
Well, firstly I'd like to voice my opinion... I feel that hiding behind a "guest" function is childish- which is why most of the forum was closed off from guest postings (but not viewings) I've noticed a difference with that change.
Second, instead of just saying it's turning into a playground- maybe pm me (or write it in this thread) about things that should/could change.
I've only been on for bits at a time this past week or so, and I've noticed that there's crappy posting going on. Ferrikins- of course you're a valued member, and your rules of posting are a good guide line.
REMEMBER we have a "guide to good posting" in the FAQ section, and you are WELCOME to link that to anybody being so dang childish. I've sent it to a few of these members.
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Post by Vixen on Mar 19, 2008 8:25:09 GMT -8
Well, firstly I'd like to voice my opinion... I feel that hiding behind a "guest" function is childish- which is why most of the forum was closed off from guest postings (but not viewings) I've noticed a difference with that change. Second, instead of just saying it's turning into a playground- maybe pm me (or write it in this thread) about things that should/could change. I've only been on for bits at a time this past week or so, and I've noticed that there's crappy posting going on. Ferrikins- of course you're a valued member, and your rules of posting are a good guide line. REMEMBER we have a "guide to good posting" in the FAQ section, and you are WELCOME to link that to anybody being so dang childish. I've sent it to a few of these members. I agrea about the guest thing, If it was my forum I would'nt let them post at all. But oviously being able to read is helpful. But if your realy commited to your gerbils and the forum, then you won't mind joining it does'nt cost anything. PM'ing is all in good, but I think when it affect the whole forum, the whole forum should read and have a view. Bringing things out in the open, is a good thing, it shows people are noticing and care about there comunity. I think to many things get hidden, nothing wrong with open action. your point about the link inthe FAQ's is a good one, you know I may even put it in my sig. I will think about if anything needs to change, but I think mostly it's just people attitudes and sadly mods can't do anything about that  |
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Post by AndreaS15 on Mar 19, 2008 8:34:45 GMT -8
Just for all the people in N. America - - - Stroppy = Easily offended or annoyed; ill-tempered or belligerent.
This is not a term used in N.America.
I feel you pain ferrikins, and I know the Mod's PM and try everything they can do to get on top of rude posters. We have a post on "Good Posting" but it seems some feel this does not pertain to them. When the rules first went up we had members say they were offended, my personal opinion... if your offended then your doing something wrong.
I also believe if your going to complain, then you need to step up and offer help to change. So, if you don't like something, then give some thoughts on how things could be changed.
Example, because I felt the 'guest' function was more a pain then a help, I started a poll to see what the members wanted. I personally wanted to see it GONE all together. We still have it because that's what the members voted on, but now it's only for certain areas of the forum. I saw a problem and did what I could to get it changed.
My personal thoughts on the posters situation -
I am a member of a handful of forums, and I can say this is probably one of the better ones in terms of rude postings. I have little toleration for stupid questions and children who call themselves breeders adding sickly animals to an already overpopulated country, so instead of getting upset with these people, I leave it to someone more tolerant than I to post a response. There are enough people on this forum, if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. ;D
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Post by Jill on Mar 19, 2008 8:38:48 GMT -8
Ferrikins, I'm sure you're not the only person feeling this way. As it goes with the internet, it is much easier to bully people through words on a screen, and if you had the chance to meet these bullies, I'd bet they were meek as a mouse in "real life".
As a mod, I can tell you that we all work very hard to keep those types of threads under control and on track. Too often do said threads go off track and remain unanswered.
We all get frustrated with one another at some point, sometimes more often though.
It seems though, many people enjoy feeding these fires. The forum is somewhat caught between a rock and a hard place when a problem like this arises. We don't want to scare people away, but simultaneously, we don't want this sort of behavior to be encouraged.
I hope you intend to stay. As Kristi said, you are a very valued member. We always appreciate your knowledge and input ;-)
Be well!
Jillie
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Post by RitzieAnn on Mar 19, 2008 8:49:28 GMT -8
PM'ing is all in good, but I think when it affect the whole forum, the whole forum should read and have a view. Bringing things out in the open, is a good thing, it shows people are noticing and care about there comunity. I think to many things get hidden, nothing wrong with open action. I didn't mean to PM all comments.  I mean if you've got something to say that you know will cause a problem with other members (like anything about a certian member or something- never hesitate to pm about anything.) But yes, as this is a public forum, we can discuss it- as "grown ups". |
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Post by James Stewart on Mar 19, 2008 8:50:14 GMT -8
Start with Yourself
When I was young and free and my imagination had no limits, I dreamed of changing the world. As I grew older and wiser, I discovered the world would not change, so I shortened my sights somewhat and decided to change only my country.
But it, too, seemed immovable.
As I grew into my twilight years, in one last desperate attempt, I settled for changing only my family, those closest to me, but alas, they would have none of it.
And now as I lay on my deathbed, I suddenly realise: if only I had changed myself first, then by example I would have changed my family.
From their inspiration and encouragement, I would have then been able to better my country and, who knows, I may have even changed the world.
Anonymous
I have posted anonymously as well. Why ... not because i am childish but because i have been attacked on forums and don't wish to be open myself up again. As such i rarely if ever post, i just read now and the hypocracy of this post astounds me. I do hope it changes but as above start with yourself.
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Post by Vixen on Mar 19, 2008 8:57:41 GMT -8
The only thing I can think of at the moment is upping the age lymit, but we been through that one before. As I said will have a think.
But was hoping that just posting and making a ishue out of it, will make people think a little more before they post.
I be intested in how many others will be willing to post there views on this subject to, cos at the moment only mods and quest's have posted. To give it am american term how many will "step up to the plate" and voise there opinion.
Sometimes a little kick up the back side is all thats needed. Oh and please don't think I having a go at the mods, I know it not easy and your trying hard.
EDIT: to say take the abouth post, posted as a guest because they don't want to be attact for there views. Does'nt that prove things need to change.
and yes I'll admit I done my fair share of stupied post's in the past, but people grow up, move on and try to change.
Ferret forums have been bad for years, and only now there starting to change for the better, and you know why, because a certain few people are not aloud to get away with there petty back stabbing anymore, oviously thats a completely bigger ishue. I on a dog forum it's the best forum I ever been on there is hardly ever any nastyness, and all the dog owners will no how BAD these dog forums can get. There is non of that. How on earth they manage it I have no idea.
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Post by AndreaS15 on Mar 19, 2008 9:43:49 GMT -8
Well, firstly I'd like to voice my opinion... I feel that hiding behind a "guest" function is childish- which is why most of the forum was closed off from guest postings (but not viewings) I've noticed a difference with that change. I wanted to quote this and give a little explanation - To you members who are logging off and then posting as a 'guest'... yes we know who you are, so you're not fooling anyone. The Mod's do not like to point fingers publicly with names, as we would rather not embarrass people if possible (in most cases they've already embarrassed themself enough  ). So that is why we deal with members in PM format and not publicly. Much of the time a member who's been PM-ed about a posting will apologize and correct them self. And those are the members I like having, as you can see they are taking thought now into their future postings. I have to agree with you on your comment "mostly it's just people attitudes and sadly mods can't do anything about that". When it comes to people lack of proper communication skills online, there's not that much that can be done. I don't have the time to babysit bad posters and reformat/rewrite their posts. Wish there was an easier way to get people to play nice, I think age can play an issue, but not always, I've seen adults post just as badly as a young child. Maybe this will be a wakeup call to everyone out there, Let's be Civil, we all are here for ONE reason, the love of gerbils! |
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Post by genie on Mar 19, 2008 9:54:13 GMT -8
Well, firstly I'd like to voice my opinion... I feel that hiding behind a "guest" function is childish- which is why most of the forum was closed off from guest postings (but not viewings) I've noticed a difference with that change. I wanted to quote this and give a little explanation - To you members who are logging off and then posting as a 'guest'... yes we know who you are, so you're not fooling anyone. i wondered if those guests would realise that People make mistakes. If something is already done, then explaining why it was a bad choice would be mature. Starting an argument gets you nowhere. Especially over the internet. So i agree in that when posting in forums you have to decide HOW your post will come across to someone who may have had a bad day, bad news, not slept, as opposed to how they would take it when spoken to over the phone or in person. I think the mods are doing a good job and have explained pretty much everything thats been said in this post, as theyve read through various comments. |
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Post by karen on Mar 19, 2008 11:57:52 GMT -8
Example, because I felt the 'guest' function was more a pain then a help, I started a poll to see what the members wanted. I personally wanted to see it GONE all together. We still have it because that's what the members voted on, but now it's only for certain areas of the forum. I saw a problem and did what I could to get it changed. I think that we should have another vote to see what new members want. I think that Ferrikins is right, but your probably not going to be able to change that, as there are people every where you go that want to brake the rules and be horrible to innocent people. But, we, as a team on this forum, make some little changes that will make this a better website for all of us. Its like your a baby, you have to crawl until you can run  |
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I mean if you've got something to say that you know will cause a problem with other members (like anything about a certian member or something- never hesitate to pm about anything.) But yes, as this is a public forum, we can discuss it- as "grown ups". 
). So that is why we deal with members in PM format and not publicly. Much of the time a member who's been PM-ed about a posting will apologize and correct them self. And those are the members I like having, as you can see they are taking thought now into their future postings.
